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prosecutors are trying to determine whether to charge paula broadwell with a crime because the fbi is investigating whether the author and petraeus mistress stored military documents including classified material at her home. according to hln's kyra philips, headline news they used to call it, the cnn network, general petraeus says the timing of the scandal had nothing to do with the deadly attack in benghazi. she spoke to him repeatedly, and he tells her that he always planned to testify and that he, quote, felt fortunate to have a wife who is farber than he deserves -- far be -- far better than he deserves. it just gets weirder every day. >> one small part of the story is unraveling a bit. you recall jill kelly, the socially yea son at the air force base, when she started receiving these allegedly harassing e-mails from petraeus' mistress went to a friend, an fbi agent. that friend is frederick humphreys. it is reported that he sent shirtless photos to kelley, but that story has been largely refuted or at least taped down. the photos were sent in jest, apparently and sent long befor
prosecutors are trying to determine whether to charge paula broadwell with a crime because the fbi is investigating whether the author and petraeus mistress stored military documents including classified material at her home. according to hln's kyra philips, headline news they used to call it, the cnn network, general petraeus says the timing of the scandal had nothing to do with the deadly attack in benghazi. she spoke to him repeatedly, and he tells her that he always planned to testify and...
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she is the tampa socialite whose complaints about threatening e-mails drug erred the fbi investigation that led to the resignation of cia director david petraeus. turn out kelley was in communication with general allen, the top u.s. commander in afghanistan. how did she know him? kelley volunteered to organize social events for senior officers at her home near mcdill air force base in tampa. the e-mails between general allen and kelley are said to be flirtatious and owe tensionally embarrassing but officials with knowledge of the e-mails say they were not sexually ex- police sit and did not offer any evidence of an affair. but, now, general allen's nomination to lead nato is in limbo. >> no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isap and leading those forces. he certainly has my continued confidence to lead our forces and continue the fight. but his nomination has been put on hold as a prudent measure until we determine what the facts are. >> reporter: for the first time sin the scandal broke, president obama weighed in on general david petr
she is the tampa socialite whose complaints about threatening e-mails drug erred the fbi investigation that led to the resignation of cia director david petraeus. turn out kelley was in communication with general allen, the top u.s. commander in afghanistan. how did she know him? kelley volunteered to organize social events for senior officers at her home near mcdill air force base in tampa. the e-mails between general allen and kelley are said to be flirtatious and owe tensionally embarrassing...
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he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of ooechblts and why it took as long as as it did for the pyeatt to find out that the nation's chief intelligence person was under investigation. let's just go through this timeline again. it started in may. the fbi at that time first started looking into anonymous harassing e-mails sent to jill kelley. that's where agent humphries comes in. it was late in the summer when high level officials at the fbi and justice department were told that their investigation had also uncovered an affair between david petraeus and his biographer, paula broadwell. it's not clear when mueller and holder were notified, but in mid october, the fbi interviewed paula broadwell and david petraeus. eri
he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of ooechblts and why it took as long as as it did for the pyeatt to find...
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fbi has uncover between 20,000 and 30,000 documents. mostly e-mails sent between allen and this woman, jill kelley. a senior defense official tells msnbc that the e-mails were inappropriate. kelley was the target of paula broad we'll's e-mails. the associated press that broadwell thought of kelley as a romantic rival for petraeus affection. he was supposed to start the process this week to be the next commander of american forces in europe and supreme allied commander of nato, allen will remain commander in afghanistan. . >>> i don't even know where to begin. how does this happen? >> well, i don't know it happens. particularly in the digital age. the idea that people think that if you have thousands of e-mails that they're not going to be picked up and found out it's sort of amazing. what's most disturbing, this is a terrible time from a foreign policy standpoint to have petraeus out. scandals that are taking key players out of afghanistan, syrian discussions. country that the president has a lot going on right now. >> we were joking co
fbi has uncover between 20,000 and 30,000 documents. mostly e-mails sent between allen and this woman, jill kelley. a senior defense official tells msnbc that the e-mails were inappropriate. kelley was the target of paula broad we'll's e-mails. the associated press that broadwell thought of kelley as a romantic rival for petraeus affection. he was supposed to start the process this week to be the next commander of american forces in europe and supreme allied commander of nato, allen will remain...
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the journal also reports kelley tried this summer to get the fbi to drop the investigation that began with kelley's complaint of harassing e-mails traced back to broadwell. people familiar with the case tell the journal that she became worried about personal information being provided to investigators. meanwhile, the washington post quotes senior law enforcement officials as saying the search conducted at broadwell's home monday night marks a renewed focus on learning just how broadwell gained access to classified files. jill kelley, who has given some impression that she has some kind of state department status that officials say she does not have, called police last weekend after news crews, including nbc, staked out her home and at one point invoked diplomatic-type privileges. >> i am an honorary consul-general so i have inviolability so they should not be able to cross my property. i don't know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved as well. >> just who is jill kelley. her name has come up in connection with two of the nation's top commanders. more now on her story from
the journal also reports kelley tried this summer to get the fbi to drop the investigation that began with kelley's complaint of harassing e-mails traced back to broadwell. people familiar with the case tell the journal that she became worried about personal information being provided to investigators. meanwhile, the washington post quotes senior law enforcement officials as saying the search conducted at broadwell's home monday night marks a renewed focus on learning just how broadwell gained...
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you have a situation where the fbi, let's start with the fbi. they going into ms. broadwell, what's her name again? >> paula broadwell's. >> paula broadwell's house and taking out boxes of stuff. now there san accusation that she may have had national security stuff in there? what's that all about. >> remember, she a reservist with military intelligence. she lt. colonel. it's not clear whether she was activated. but she did have a clearance at one point. so, supposedly, she took classified documents. she took them from government facilities but she wasn't allowed to have them in her house. so they are looking at whether or not national security breaches. david petraeus was not responsible for giving her those documents. kelley and petraeus at this point is just a personal matter an embarrassing personal matter, that's all. no other national security implications. >> between broadwell, yeah. between paula broadwell and david petraeus, it's an affair, there are questions whether she could be charged under the uniform code of military justice if she was activated in h
you have a situation where the fbi, let's start with the fbi. they going into ms. broadwell, what's her name again? >> paula broadwell's. >> paula broadwell's house and taking out boxes of stuff. now there san accusation that she may have had national security stuff in there? what's that all about. >> remember, she a reservist with military intelligence. she lt. colonel. it's not clear whether she was activated. but she did have a clearance at one point. so, supposedly, she...
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what about all of that time while the fbi was looking into it? and maybe they had suspected there was a national security risk. why weren't we, the people who were supposed to have oversight in the intelligence community informed of that possibility? >> so many questions. more than answers and when you hear the word criminal, dana, of course, that gets a lot of people going. dana bash on capitol hill for us. dana, thank you very much. >>> many of the fbi protocols on reporting criminal investigations to the white house and others actually stem way back to the watergate scandal. an investigation back then uncovered abuses and mistakes and the justice department has since made changes. i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] dayquil doesn't treat that. huh? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus rushes relief to all your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! reminds me of our network before cdw virtualized it. how
what about all of that time while the fbi was looking into it? and maybe they had suspected there was a national security risk. why weren't we, the people who were supposed to have oversight in the intelligence community informed of that possibility? >> so many questions. more than answers and when you hear the word criminal, dana, of course, that gets a lot of people going. dana bash on capitol hill for us. dana, thank you very much. >>> many of the fbi protocols on reporting...
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the fbi apparently acted by the book. you don't tip off the white house when you're engaging in a potentially criminal investigation. the agent in florida who then worried that the investigation was being stalled and went to a republican congressman who went to eric cantor, he has an illustrious record. he helped bring down the millennium plot. you can't blame him, either, for his apparent concern that this was not being studied appear prop it i can't tellly. so then the story got out, and i think general petraeus has acted honorably in resigning. i think he is going to do fine. he is going to get a book contract. he apparently wants to be president of princeton. he will have a year of probably giving speeches, making a lot of money. i don't feel sorry for him. >> if he wrote a book with the lady who wrote about him, paula broadwell, all in the education of david petraeus. he cooperated practically on the entire book. now he's going to write another book? >> he can write one about himself. he's not the author of this. thi
the fbi apparently acted by the book. you don't tip off the white house when you're engaging in a potentially criminal investigation. the agent in florida who then worried that the investigation was being stalled and went to a republican congressman who went to eric cantor, he has an illustrious record. he helped bring down the millennium plot. you can't blame him, either, for his apparent concern that this was not being studied appear prop it i can't tellly. so then the story got out, and i...
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first, new information about the fbi agent who has now been identified. nbc has confirmed he is frederick humphries who worked on the bomb squad case. after kelley received e-mails from four or five alias counties. the e-mails have been traced back to petraeus biography paula broadwell, who remains at her brother's home in washington, d.c. he still has not commented on the case. there are new details to talk about. joining me is michael isikoff. what more have we learned about why kelley was concerned enough that the e-mails be forwarded to the fbi? >> we have learned a little bit more about the e-mails. remember, the first one actually goes to general allen in afghanistan from an e-mail account identified as kell kellkelly pat trt kelly patrol talking about his upcoming meeting with jill kelley in tampa. and what was most concerning about the e-mails, we're told from kelley's perspective is they seem to know the comings and goings of general allen, other generals at the u.s. central command and the special operations command, and in one case apparently c
first, new information about the fbi agent who has now been identified. nbc has confirmed he is frederick humphries who worked on the bomb squad case. after kelley received e-mails from four or five alias counties. the e-mails have been traced back to petraeus biography paula broadwell, who remains at her brother's home in washington, d.c. he still has not commented on the case. there are new details to talk about. joining me is michael isikoff. what more have we learned about why kelley was...
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he was the one who took that initial complaint and turned it over to the cyberunit at the fbi. we know from a coup of sources he's still on duty. he was not apparently happy with the way the investigation was going. but then you'll remember the sexy little nugget that came out earlier this week, that he had actually sent shirtless photographs of himself to jill kelley. well it will turns out after a couple of meetings yesterday, some representatives for the kelley family described that picture in a little more detail. now we can imagine what it looked like. he was on a shooting range. there were dummies there where they take aim at. he thought it might be funny to take his shirt off and stand among a lineup of dummies. it's not my idea of sexy. as we're finding out more details about the story and getting into the facts of it, it still is interesting, but maybe not quite as bad as everyone first thought. >> one of my sources close to that particular agent said he's a standup guy and never would have sent a sexy shirtless picture. so that does make a lot of sense. suzanne kelly,
he was the one who took that initial complaint and turned it over to the cyberunit at the fbi. we know from a coup of sources he's still on duty. he was not apparently happy with the way the investigation was going. but then you'll remember the sexy little nugget that came out earlier this week, that he had actually sent shirtless photographs of himself to jill kelley. well it will turns out after a couple of meetings yesterday, some representatives for the kelley family described that picture...
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and the fbi started the investigation and now we have generals floating out there. she is accused of exchanging, and she knew this at the time, tens of thousands of pages of e-mails, think of that, not e-mails but pages of e-mails, with general allen over two or let years, the top commander in afghanistan, leading the longest war in the history of the country, an official said the mails they shared amounted to "phone sex over e-mail." pentagon officials say general allen insists he has done nothing wrong. jill kelley, her husband, and her twin sister, hosted the awesome parties for top military officials and that is how she get to know the yens and all them including both general petraeus and general allen, and while the kelleys are living this licksure russ -- this luxury life, their home has been in foreclosure since 2010 and they were in big financial trouble. jonathan hunt is here. what else do we know about jill kelley? >> she is 37. her family is originally from lebanon and moved to the united states in the 1970's and she grew up in philadelphia and moved to t
and the fbi started the investigation and now we have generals floating out there. she is accused of exchanging, and she knew this at the time, tens of thousands of pages of e-mails, think of that, not e-mails but pages of e-mails, with general allen over two or let years, the top commander in afghanistan, leading the longest war in the history of the country, an official said the mails they shared amounted to "phone sex over e-mail." pentagon officials say general allen insists he...
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she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell. she has been psycher stalked and she could actually go out and go after paula for doing that. >> you are sleeping with the head of the cia and you can write an autobigrammy . and you have no credentials to do and we'll award you money. >> some people think the terrorist attack caused by a youtube video. and people may. >> gloria allred will call jim kelley. >> her name will not be smoking. >> aren't you concerned about the fact that men can be so weak that they can're - can be manipulated. if you could read my mind 23 hours a day. we are sick human beings and we are visually stimulated and sexually predatorial. nand yes, we
she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell....
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kelley you may recall is the same married mom of three, who set off the initial fbi investigation into paula broadwell. now e-mailses that multiple law enforcements tell abc were traced back to biographer paula broadwell. in yet another twist in this case, the fbi conducted a consensual search of broadwell's home last night. >>> meanwhile, an internal fbi inquiry has been launched into the agent who started the investigation and who tipped off republican members of congress about it, a senior government official telling nbc news, the agent sent shirtless photos to jill kelley prior to the investigation. now, as the inquiries into allen and petraeus move forward, congress is reconvening on capitol hill about the original fbi investigation. >> the elements on in some ways of a hollywood movie, once this investigation, whenever david petraeus's name came up, they had an only giggs to tell the president. >> the defense secretary leon panetta telling reporters that congressional intelligence leaders should have been notified and much sooner. >> i believe that there's a responsibility to mak
kelley you may recall is the same married mom of three, who set off the initial fbi investigation into paula broadwell. now e-mailses that multiple law enforcements tell abc were traced back to biographer paula broadwell. in yet another twist in this case, the fbi conducted a consensual search of broadwell's home last night. >>> meanwhile, an internal fbi inquiry has been launched into the agent who started the investigation and who tipped off republican members of congress about it, a...
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e-mail bs by the fbi. she meets him when she attends a program where they learn how the fbi works. he does a briefing there. she chats him afterwards. when this happens, and this is much later, she contacts him and says i have this problem, can you get me to the right person. he brings her to the cyber squad. >> quick question again on paula broadwell. we've been led to believe that the fbi thinks there's nothing wrong, she had no classified documents. but last night, the fbi spent four hours at her house in north carolina pulling boxes out of her house. they said searching for additional information. does that suggest, do they think this is not over? >> as we reported yesterday, she did have classified documents, but she's also a major in the army reserve. she's got a security clearance. the question is how were those documents obtained and how were they stored? so they tidied up the search yesterday. they got a consensual search warrant. so they're looking for any other loose ends there. >> john miller,
e-mail bs by the fbi. she meets him when she attends a program where they learn how the fbi works. he does a briefing there. she chats him afterwards. when this happens, and this is much later, she contacts him and says i have this problem, can you get me to the right person. he brings her to the cyber squad. >> quick question again on paula broadwell. we've been led to believe that the fbi thinks there's nothing wrong, she had no classified documents. but last night, the fbi spent four...
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she turned over all of her e-mails to an fbi agent she knew never realizing the i will pact they would have. jill kelley never had an affair with general allen. the e-mails had enough inappropriate language to warrant an investigation. >> no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isaf in leading those forces. he certainly has my continued confidence to lead our forces and to at this point the fight. >> reporter: the fbi continues looking through documents they took monday night from broadwell's home but so far have found no evidence of anything highly classified. the pentagon suspended broadwell's security clearances and they revoked jill kelley's pass to the air force base. >>> overseas now where fears of a new war in the middle east are on the rise after israeli's took out the top israeli commander of hamas. just this morning the first israeli fatalities. three people killed in rocket fire from the gaza strip. nbc's martin fletcher is live with us in tel aviv. good morning to you. >> reporter: they were standing on their balcony watching a
she turned over all of her e-mails to an fbi agent she knew never realizing the i will pact they would have. jill kelley never had an affair with general allen. the e-mails had enough inappropriate language to warrant an investigation. >> no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isaf in leading those forces. he certainly has my continued confidence to lead our forces and to at this point the fight. >> reporter: the fbi continues looking...
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why would the fbi be involved in this anyway? >> the fbi is supposed to investigate predicated federal crimes. and they don't know when they start an investigation precisely whether the evidence ultimately will show there was a crime. i don't know what they were told initially by this woman, or what they were told by anybody who was friendly with her who had the ear of somebody at the bureau. but with great respect, that's one of those subsidiary questions. it's an interesting if not then would this all have happened. that's sort of the cleopatra's nose theory. if she had an ugly nose, would history have been different. that's an interesting question to discuss but i don't think it's a fundamental one. >> this revelation that apparently the investigation was concluded four days before the election clearly somebody has decided, whoever that may be and i'm sure we'll find out in the forms of time, that the information should not be passed to the white house, although i share your concern about the white house's blanket denial they
why would the fbi be involved in this anyway? >> the fbi is supposed to investigate predicated federal crimes. and they don't know when they start an investigation precisely whether the evidence ultimately will show there was a crime. i don't know what they were told initially by this woman, or what they were told by anybody who was friendly with her who had the ear of somebody at the bureau. but with great respect, that's one of those subsidiary questions. it's an interesting if not then...
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bob barrows also joins us and bob, let me ask you about this fbi investigation. it began in the early summer. the president was only informed after the election. his director of national intelligence informed at 5:00 on election day. congressional leaders were informed even after the resignation. defense secretary leon panetta was asked today whether capitol hill should have been notified sooner and said, i want to quote, that's another issue we ought to look at because as former director of the cia and having worked closely with the intelligence committees, you know, i believe there is a responsibility to make sure they're informed. did they handle this correctly? >> no. somebody dropped the ball. you never blind side the president. when a senior official in his administration under investigation when e-mails are being read, you inform the white house at a very high level. national security adviser. his council. even the president himself. you always do that. it's a standing protocol inside the federal government. never blindside the president. as far as i've se
bob barrows also joins us and bob, let me ask you about this fbi investigation. it began in the early summer. the president was only informed after the election. his director of national intelligence informed at 5:00 on election day. congressional leaders were informed even after the resignation. defense secretary leon panetta was asked today whether capitol hill should have been notified sooner and said, i want to quote, that's another issue we ought to look at because as former director of...
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at the fbi, j. edgar hoover used to do the same thing. except it was usually in a backless evening gown. >> yeah. >> president obama gave his first press conference since being re-elected. and a lot of people are saying it looked like he was trying to cover up some of his gray hair. so, i guess obama's major goals include jobs for women and just for men. >> by the way, if you're looking for a job, facebook just launched a new app that may be of use to you. they teamed up with the department of label to create what they call the social jobs app. you can brows through 200 jobless claims. you know it's bad when facebook tells you get off your as and get a job. facebook has an app that will help you lose your job. it's called facebook. try it. >> very true, jimmy.
at the fbi, j. edgar hoover used to do the same thing. except it was usually in a backless evening gown. >> yeah. >> president obama gave his first press conference since being re-elected. and a lot of people are saying it looked like he was trying to cover up some of his gray hair. so, i guess obama's major goals include jobs for women and just for men. >> by the way, if you're looking for a job, facebook just launched a new app that may be of use to you. they teamed up with...
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fbi got access to her e-mail account and found she sent them. but they said her e-mail account also included what appeared to be suggestive e-mails from david petraeus, that first they wondered if somebody hacked into his private account. interviewed separately, both admitted their affair, officials say. broadwell, in late september, petraeus, in october, low-level documents were found on her computer. abling -- agents eventually determined she had proper access to them prosecutors found there was no no leaking of classified information.n. no threat to national security. some say they, or at least president obama should have been told about the investigation while it was going on. >> once the fbi realized they were investigating the cia director, or they came within the scope, i believe at that time they had the absolute need to tell the president. >> reporter: but the justice department official says the fbi never tells other agencies when they're in the middle of a criminal investigation. they note that federal law says that congressional inte
fbi got access to her e-mail account and found she sent them. but they said her e-mail account also included what appeared to be suggestive e-mails from david petraeus, that first they wondered if somebody hacked into his private account. interviewed separately, both admitted their affair, officials say. broadwell, in late september, petraeus, in october, low-level documents were found on her computer. abling -- agents eventually determined she had proper access to them prosecutors found there...
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factor follow up segment tonight, chief general petraeus had to resign over extramarital affair that the fbi discovered while investigating his computer. now, marine general john allen top u.s. commander in afghanistan also feeling the heat of that investigation. apparently the general had some kind of communications with a woman named jill kelley who was the whistle blower in the petraeus affair situation. this is a confusing mess and none of it good for the country. joining us now from washington lt. colonel tony shaffer works at the center for advanced studdies and from boston lt. colonel david hunt. tell me about general allen. >> general allen is a good man. he is an active duet four star marine general who took over in afghanistan for then general david petraeus who goes to the cia. general allen is now on hold but he was being nominated to command europe and be the nato commander. >> bill: i'm not exactly sure what he is alleged to have done. do you know what they are saying? what's the buzz as they say in military circles? >> he is being -- alleged to have had flirtatious emails with
factor follow up segment tonight, chief general petraeus had to resign over extramarital affair that the fbi discovered while investigating his computer. now, marine general john allen top u.s. commander in afghanistan also feeling the heat of that investigation. apparently the general had some kind of communications with a woman named jill kelley who was the whistle blower in the petraeus affair situation. this is a confusing mess and none of it good for the country. joining us now from...